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Limit Gallery Uploads To 3 A Day

Postby m1dsu on Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:47 am

Today I was viewing the "Latest Uploads" and a conributor had submitted an entire page. This means that people who upload one or two images get them pushed back to second or third page within an hour or so. Hence the usuall viewer having a quick browse over breakfast with limited time on his/her hands will not get to see and critique many photographers work.
Also,the person submitting an entire page gets his/her work largely ingnored. I for one can`t be bothered trawling through 20-30 images,rating and commenting on one persons work.
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Re: Limit Gallery Uploads To 3 A Day

Postby egwardo on Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:22 am

There is definately a strong argument for this type of limitaion as it encourages people to focus on quality rather than quantity. I think it also helps us as photographer become more accustomed to selecting from our portfolios what really represents what we are trying to convey rather than submitting 10 variation of the same photograph.

I think it must be difficult from a DP point of view as they are trying to encourage participation and profliferation but i think for the long term development and success there needs to be an element of control or as stated people will just think "i havent got time to trawl through 5 pages a day" and end up not returning to the site, which would be a real shame.
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Re: Limit Gallery Uploads To 3 A Day

Postby RedEyes© on Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:46 am

it's been discussed adinfinitum on here, and i am in agreement with you. However most said that they wanted it to say the same. I did say this would rear its head every 6 months or so, and it looks like i was right. Don't expect things to change though, most here are obsessed with quantity and not quality

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Re: Limit Gallery Uploads To 3 A Day

Postby dave_h on Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:57 pm

As I've said before...if someone uploads a page of pics...you don't have to look at them. Pictures are always moving backwards as more images are uploaded, upload limits will not stop this.
OP, you seem more interested in the name of the poster rather than the pictures themselves. :-)

we don't need limits.
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Re: Limit Gallery Uploads To 3 A Day

Postby bigfra on Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:52 pm

I'm with Dave on this one. Limits may deter new members which my lead to the death of the site. If someone has the images, time and bandwidth to routinely upload large numbers, then good for them. As has been said, they risk people missing their images and potentially not receiving the feedback they must be looking for (or they wouldn't be joining in the first place).

The problem I have is that the Latest Images are just shoved on the end of the previous days offerings and its tough to know where you've got to as you go through the list; it can feel like a never ending slog especially on a Monday when there can be 500-600 new images. Having more options to search and order the image you see would be helpful - all the metadata required to do it is already there (e.g. show me all the portraits for the last 2 days). I know its possible, but of course how much work the Web Developers would be need to do is another question.

One other thought occurs to me. Most of these "big posters" tend to be new members, and it may be that they don't know the etiquette. I know I certainly didn't (although I'm not guilty of uploadng huge numbers of images in one day, having neither the number, time or bandwidth to do it). Perhaps our friends in DP could send a " how to get the best out of the website" to new members to educate them that pages and pages of new images from the same user on the same day are annoying - even if there are some real gems in there (I think I know the user you refer to Jim. Go back and have a look, I think there are some good images in there...annoying as the sheer numbers are)

Anyway, thats just my 2 cents. As the folks in my office know, ignore me if I start ranting, its an idiosyncracy of mine :wink:

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Re: Limit Gallery Uploads To 3 A Day

Postby chrisburns on Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:36 pm

Yep I knew it would be only another couple of months when this gets talked about again..

i'm sure you all know where is stand but I agree with the OP.
and if it was limited it certainly wouldnt be the death of the site.
ephotozine has a 1 per day limit and its the largest photography contributing site on the net so that argument just doesnt work.
they do however allow multiple uploads for the first X days when you join or something like that... I forgot now so any NEW members can upload large amounts at the start to get their portfolio online but are then limited after that.

I think the weekend issue is a big one... many people on here even if they put 1 image on at the weekend will find on a monday morning their image is 3 or 4 or 5 pages back when it gets published.

I'm sure the site could be like ephotozine and publish imediately and then have site moderators to authenticate / censor images from there.

I know people have said 'don't worry and just skip over them but the reality is that they are the only ones that do this ... the majority of users on here will look at the first possibly second page
and the POTW and thats it...
I know thats what I do as I just havent got the time to trawl through pages and pages of images .
nothing will happen though to change it so theres no point talking about it really..!

I ran out of breath about 2 years ago about this and its still the same
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Re: Limit Gallery Uploads To 3 A Day

Postby dave_h on Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:51 am

Sooooooo, this is such a major issue that this thread has been largely ignored. Perhaps everyone is out taking pics...:-)

I do find it funny that people say they don't have much time to view images and then find the time to write on a forum complaining about it.

the majority of users on here will look at the first possibly second page
and the POTW and thats it...

How can you possibly know this ?
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Re: Limit Gallery Uploads To 3 A Day

Postby chrisburns on Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:04 pm

dave_h wrote:Sooooooo, this is such a major issue that this thread has been largely ignored. Perhaps everyone is out taking pics...:-)

I do find it funny that people say they don't have much time to view images and then find the time to write on a forum complaining about it.

the majority of users on here will look at the first possibly second page
and the POTW and thats it...

How can you possibly know this ?


I guess like the OP if people feel strongly about something they will use the forums as well as the main site just like you do to reply to the threads..... there isnt a rule that says you cant post comments unless you have first uploaded or viewed x hundreds of images first...... If people think their time is better spent writing threads instead of viewing others images then thats their choice.

also I don't know if thats the trend for the site I'm only guessing to be honest, based on 15 years of a web development career spanning hundreds of sites and knowing what usual trends are for user sessions... but it would be interesting if DP released the session log stats to show the figures but I guess they wont do that either....
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Re: Limit Gallery Uploads To 3 A Day

Postby m1dsu on Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:42 pm

I`m not complaining, just making a suggestion. Aint that what the forum is for.It`s to benefit the big posters too.
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Re: Limit Gallery Uploads To 3 A Day

Postby Medley on Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:06 pm

Chris, I've heard the ePhotozine comparison before. The only reason I don't like it is that it's an apples and oranges comparison. At ePhotozine, the site IS the product. That's what they're selling. Here, the mag is the product and the site is provided as a service for those reader who wish to take advantage of it.

But the reason I'm posting here is because I have a suggestion of my own. It's one that will accomplish most of what people have been saying they want, but which would not actually impose any limitations whatsoever- over and above what the members would impose on themselves. It's beautiful in its simplicity, really. Here it is:

You know all those images we have in our galleries- the ones who have no rating, and therefor are not figured into the gallery rating? Figure them in. Count the images with a zero rating as just that. The gallery rating becomes the total number of ratings received, divided by the total number of images in the gallery.

Among many other positive benefits, this would mean that uploading an image would initially lower one's average gallery rating. To recoup that average, the image's rating would need to meet or exceed the gallery's initial average rating. I dare say that MANY of the members here would become much more selective in the number and type of images uploaded. I would also wager that the overall quality of the images in the gallery would improve. Meanwhile, new members who have no gallery rating could still feel free to upload as they like.

Problem solved, no limits imposed. Next question. :mrgreen:

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Re: Limit Gallery Uploads To 3 A Day

Postby dave_h on Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:48 am

I`m not complaining, just making a suggestion. Aint that what the forum is for.It`s to benefit the big posters too.


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Re: Limit Gallery Uploads To 3 A Day

Postby BrianMDoucette on Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:35 pm

Medley wrote:You know all those images we have in our galleries- the ones who have no rating, and therefor are not figured into the gallery rating? Figure them in. Count the images with a zero rating as just that. The gallery rating becomes the total number of ratings received, divided by the total number of images in the gallery.
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Now that's a good idea! I think that this would work exceedingly well
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Re: Limit Gallery Uploads To 3 A Day

Postby RedEyes© on Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:16 pm

that definitely sounds like an improvement. Look forward to it
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Re: Limit Gallery Uploads To 3 A Day

Postby Medley on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:24 pm

Sounds like a good compromise to me as well Andy. Hopefully, it will make everyone happy. :D

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